



Esther wrote:I think it is a sad state of affairs that a commercial that advocates life and love can be deemed "controversial." Personally I find it more offensive and controversial that a group called Woman's Media Center thinks it can speak on behalf of women in general when clearly it has its own very agenda, and certainly does not speak on the behalf of *this* woman.



holliejjj wrote:I think the fact he is a football player and the ad is during the Super Bowl makes it relevant and uplifting...but it's hard to say without seeing the commercial. Joy Behar was talking about on the view today that the commercial is like a "look I chose life and he ended up being a wonderful football player" and she said the reverse could be said about Jeffrey Dahmer or whoever the arguement could be made, only if they had been aborted. I'm probably phrasing it wrong since I was only half listening.
Honestly I just wonder if an ad is really going to do anything. Super Bowl ads are not cheap and that money could have been used in maybe more effective ways?





Alison wrote:I don't have a problem with an anti abortion commercial being played on tv, free speech and all...
Alison wrote:My understanding, and I haven't seen the commercial, is that the controversy is because his mother was advised to have an abortion for medical reasons. I don't know what those reasons were, I don't know if they thought there was a problem with the baby or it was her medical issue. Some feel (not saying this is how I feel since I haven't seen it) that the message is, "ignore medical advice and have the baby anyway, even if it puts your life in danger." I am pro-choice, but I don't have a problem with an anti abortion commercial being played on tv, free speech and all...




ruffages wrote:And ultimately, the way *I* am reading it, this controversy is that choice is all well and good, as long as you choose what is "recommended" (or urged) for you to choose. If not, well, then "we" don't want to hear about your choice, nor do "we" want you talking about your choice, especially if it might encourage others to make a choice contrary to our agenda. This is where the pro-choice movement loses its credibility as being pro-choice and starts to be come pro-abortion.

Christina wrote:ruffages wrote:And ultimately, the way *I* am reading it, this controversy is that choice is all well and good, as long as you choose what is "recommended" (or urged) for you to choose. If not, well, then "we" don't want to hear about your choice, nor do "we" want you talking about your choice, especially if it might encourage others to make a choice contrary to our agenda. This is where the pro-choice movement loses its credibility as being pro-choice and starts to be come pro-abortion.
Same can be said for the pro-life movement.


that choice is all well and good, as long as you choose what is "recommended" (or urged) for you to choose. If not, well, then "we" don't want to hear about your choice, nor do "we" want you talking about your choice, especially if it might encourage others to make a choice contrary to our agenda. This is where the pro-choice movement loses its credibility as being pro-choice and starts to be come pro-abortion.
Same can be said for the pro-life movement.
Oh? Does the pro-life movement bill themselves as pro-choice?


ruffages wrote:Christina wrote:ruffages wrote:And ultimately, the way *I* am reading it, this controversy is that choice is all well and good, as long as you choose what is "recommended" (or urged) for you to choose. If not, well, then "we" don't want to hear about your choice, nor do "we" want you talking about your choice, especially if it might encourage others to make a choice contrary to our agenda. This is where the pro-choice movement loses its credibility as being pro-choice and starts to be come pro-abortion.
Same can be said for the pro-life movement.
Oh? Does the pro-life movement bill themselves as pro-choice?


ruffages wrote:NO one has seen the ad (except for CBS to view for content). So, perhaps all these womens groups have their panties in a twist over nothing.
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